>>3144693
>(don't be a retard; virus scan everything you get from 4chan)
VIRUS SCAN!?
Never heard of such a thing.

Rapidshare says it can only be downloaded 10 times, I don't know what's up with that.

Anyway, I registered the domain rptable.net but I'm too poor for a webserver this month. Expecting to wrap up and get a real alpha release in January.

What I could really use from you guys is suggestions, ideas, and 3d models in Wavefront Object (.obj) format to use as objects (especially doors, tables, etc.) and player figures.

The rar up there has some models I made, note that you can place a hojillion Knights down with no slowdown, but the MASSIVE number of vertices on those trees kills the game. The lower poly count the better.

Previous ideas were:

-allow .png files to be made into round tokens like the tile files are made into rectangles
-allow for 3d tile stacking
-create transparent water tiles

Let me know what you guys think.

I will repasta this thread tomorrow when there are more people here also.

Can you make 3D maps in this? As in multiple z-levels?

>>3144738
not yet, I hadn't rally thought of that

>>3144747
That's the one thing I really feel is lacking in RPG table software, honestly.

If you can fit in a way to make the grid 3D I'll show you some old techniques of mine to make a program pick good-looking tiles out of a grid. With those two features and some good art you could make a very nice looking dungeon very quickly.

>>3144769
I can implement decent Z in a few minutes actually, I'm already working on it.

>>3144769
I have to agree, as depicting a layout in 2d can be done even with ASCII on a forum. Showing how high that ledge is, or where exactly the dragon in flight above you is, is the hard part.

Oh, and when I run it in WINE I get these messages and it immediately quits:

fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_LoadKeyboardLayout L"00000409", 0080: stub!
fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_LoadKeyboardLayout L"04090409", 0001: stub!
fixme:wgl:X11DRV_wglChoosePixelFormatARB unused pfAttribFList


And it seems the only source you included was your include directory so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with that.

>>3144693
I do remember you. Please continue: you're doing God's work.

>>3144814
you're not supposed to do anything with it. I included it accidentally I guess.

I'm not surprised it won't run in WINE, it compiles in Windows via mingw32 so linux is probably freaking out. I can get a native linux executable at work tomorrow.

To make tiles look really good with no effort from the user, make tile "types" like "grass" or "stone" that the user paints with. Each tile type has a number of variants, which it chooses based on which neighboring tiles share the same type. Typically you don't need diagonals, so that's 4 directions and 16 variants.

The system I always use for which variant to pick goes like this:

int style = 0;
if(tiles[x+1][y] == tiles[x][y]) style += 1;
if(tiles[x][y-1] == tiles[x][y]) style += 2;
if(tiles[x-1][y] == tiles[x][y]) style += 4;
if(tiles[x][y+1] == tiles[x][y]) style += 8;

Then use the style'th tile variant.

You can also perform a version that looks at the diagonals, using a similar method. This allows your artist to make a much smoother looking dungeon, but it is also 16x as much work.

Pic related: it's a tile sheet for a game I made that used corners. If you only look at the first row, that's what the sheet would look like if you ignored corners.

OK, time to get shit done. I might be able to supply a number of traps and stuff sometime soon.

@OP: Is your texture stuff up to date? You should think about doing the trees the old-fashioned way (simple squares with branches and leaves as a texture with a transparent value).

psst I enabled zlevels ;)

There are benefits to doing this kind of thing in 3d

>>3144969
I'm not certain individual tile painting is a good idea, and let me tell you why.

After using the WotC dungeon tiles, I will never go back. You can place them down on the table with no effort whatsoever, make a swift, decent looking dungeon in seconds by flopping them down, or spend effort on the scene and place them on top of things like dice or dice boxes.

The tile-approach covers large areas of map quickly and easily, and I actually think it would be best to DIScourage the use of 1x1 tiles as much as possible in an effort to speed up the game.

I don't want to make the same mistake WotC is making with their program, namely making it too big for itself. This is only an aide to playing D&D, not D&D itself.

Thoughts?

>>3144983
Low-poly wavefront objects are just as good, can texture them however you want and I'll interpret it correctly. I would just tend to prefer trees with big circly areas of leaves over individual leaves like the one pictured in the OP

If you and all your players are running 6800GT video cards, you won't notice a difference anyway, but if one guy has a 1.2ghz Celeron laptop he'll be grateful

>>3145024
I'm not sure what the disadvantage you're getting at is.

Using a system like this is insanely quick to work with: you click a square and now it's a tile.

>>3145063
I prefer 'you click a square and now it's a hallway/room'

>>3145098
Wow this guy is dense. The tripfag's system lets him keep exactly the same user interface but makes it automatically figure out how to look sexy.

>>3145111
I don't understand which one of us you're insulting

>>3145116
You could configure it to automatically figure out where the borders are and choose the appropriate border pieces from the associated library, that's the essence of his garbled stuff.

Pedobear: The Movie
http://w3t.org/c/peeedobear

>>3145217
ah, I see now.

I think I will elect to not go that route.

Attached is a .png "4x2floor.png". This is all you need to make a tile. The height and width are included in the filename. The program makes the base of the tile automagically. To add a new tile, all you need to do is place a .png in the "tiles" directory with a "#x#description.png" filename and bam, it's a tile.

I think simplicity is superior to aesthetics and will result in, overall, better looking tiles if the DM can fire up Photoshop and just blast out the one they need. Or, alternately, download any rectangular image from the internet and make it a tile by saving it as a .png in mspaint and changing the filename.

>>3145258
That works for standard rooms. The idea was to make it single tiles, to cater for irregular rooms. Not all rooms are just standard 4x2 or 13x8 stuff.

>>3145271
have one of these

>>3145284
Might be good enough for YOU, Anon, but you're pretty much missing the point.

Have it import models from Dawn of War. Operation Flash Point did it.

>>3145315
You can do it yourself, if you use a 3D modeling program like Blender. There's a plugin for that somewhere, Blender saves in .OBJ if ordered to do so.

Fuck, I used to be a wiz with wings3d (which can export to .obj) but for some reason it doesn't run on my system anymore.
Which is a shame, as I used to make a lot of (I think) pretty cool things in it.
Everything in 3d on here I made using wings 3d, and even then it doesn't have some of the crazy stuff I was working on.
http://bearded-jarl.deviantart.com/
If I figure out how to get it working again, I'll be sure to contact you.

i think we need a new link for this?

Focus on Necromunda, its a game that requires 3D areas.

We totally need this to be reuploaded somewhere that DOESNT limit you to 10 downloads.

Dear OP: Make a collector's acount on Rapidshare, move the file there. Add new versions as you see fit. A soucecode is fine too, we might want to contribute to the project. Don't do it like the DF programmer who is stuck with a piece of shit and refuses to get any help.

>>3145492
agreed, OP is faggot for not doing this already

What the others said: Just make a free collector's account with RS and move the file over. Not complicated.

Normally I'd offer a spot on my server for a project like this but the OP seems a little ¯\(º_o)/¯ so I'll wait and see.

You might want to name this something different. There is a program already called RPG Virtual Tabletop and it might get confusing.

Fuck it, wings3d isn't working no matter what I try. Any object with more than 100-ish polies causes the program to slow to a crawl and every time I click to select a face it selects the backface behind/opposite it. Which shouldn't even be possible

Know any other 3d programs (besides blender, which I could never puzzle out) that do .obj?

>>3145797
Sorry man, if you're too stupid for Blender, you're pretty much fucked.

>>3145875
... Oh, it's on. I'm gonna learn the everloving fuck out of that program, fucker.

>>3145895
Enjoy your nonstandard GUI and extensive use of keyboard commands.

>>3145904
"Standard UI"... the only two programs I've ever seen share a GUI were Milkshape and 3d Studio Max

>>3145904
Already acquainted with roguelike games, I know my keyboard commands.