http://www.burkaavenger.com/tvseries

Click on the "monologue" video, it actually manages to look kind of cool. Anyone know how to rip it? I want to toss it up on youtube.

You know, there aren't really too many Muslims in animation, so I think this is actually kind of a near idea, even if it is low budget.

I'm a little disappointed that she just throws the books, instead of having paper powers like R.O.D.

Anyone know when it is actually going to air?

This is from the "Fun with Colours" section, but it looks more like concept art.

no wonder America exports all of their entertainment, if this is the shit foreign countries have to deal with.

Dem pantsu.

Is anyone having trouble getting the wallpaper from the site? Clicking on the section just gives me a black screen.

is this dota 2

Looks like a video game boss.

>>52315378
dem pouches

>>52315454

His name is Bhoot or something. Is he supposed to be some sort of demon?

Is this Captain Britain's new sidekick?

>>52315310
The site probably isn't up properly. A lot of pakistani companies cant into web design.

If there are enough people interested, I guess I could make the effort to record this as it airs.
Subbing's going to be a pain in the ass though.'

>>52315498

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pdbshf4iPE

There is going to be an English version, it seems.

>>52315475
Bhoot means ghost. So he's a malevolent spirit I'm guessing.

>>52315498

http://www.burkaavenger.com/images/gallery/full/

I'll see if I can dig up anything cool.

Does Pakistan even have forests like these? I thought it was just a bunch of mountains.

>>52315539
>>52315567
What if,

a female superhero,

who's a middle eastern,

school teacher,

and her costume,

is a burka,

and a cape.

Just a cape.

Just nothing but massive billowing front-to-back cape.

Not a dress, a full-body cape.

>>52315539
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pdbshf4iPE
Oh, I didn't know about that. That's a bold move to make, years before they'd have been lucky to get projects like this approved at all. It's good to see the industry developing somewhat.

>>52315643

I can dig it.

>>52315496
No, she is

FGSFDS

/co/, please turn this into the next waifu of the month. Veiled and masked women are my fetish.

>>52315567
Mountains are just at the north and south west mostly. But the locations are all somewhat stylized, its east to see the inspiration from general fantasy settings and anime.

But yes, there are forests, and lakes and plains and shit.

>>52315762
But what if the veil is de-veiled somehow and it turns out to be a previous waifu trying to make her drastic climb back up from obscurity? I don't know man, that kind of makes me feel sheepish.

>>52315643
The cape just reminds me of Spawn.

>>52315727
>liberal indoctrination
fuck this show

>>52315913

Back to your cave, Mohammad.

>>52315074
While the animation is lousy, and the characterization is Captain Planet tier, I have to admire the brass balls everyone involved with this have. The Taliban tend to murder the fuck out of people that do shit they don't approve of who were minding their own business, these people with this are actively sticking their tongues out at them, or whatever the Pakistani equivalent to that might be.

>>52316062
>Automaton pimped out with truck art.
That's glorious.

>>52315913
really dude
>get an education kids
>this is fucking bullshit hippies loving terrorist shit fucking librerals ruining the country I'm a straw man and obama wants to take that from me too he can keep his change I'll keep my guns because I suck

>>52315762
shit I just think burqas and hijab are cool lookin not even in a fetish way

>tfw mentioning it gets you splattered in murrica

>>52315762

Maybe it'll happen once we get an episode.

At least, I hope so. Delicious brown hijabi school teacher heroine is too good to pass up.

>>52316157
The robot is pretty swag.

I like how he had sort of a troll face going on there.

They could have used a different name to make it a bit more subtle.

>>52316312
Subtlety is for the weak.
Plus I imagine it creates a lot more buzz.

>>52316206

You must be living in a lousy part of Murrica.

I don't think I've seen a girl in a full burqu where I live, but I've seen plenty of girls in hijabs.

>>52316312

I think they are making this to piss people off and that is always a good thing.

>>52316345
It will create more "negative" attention if it even gets any.
I know this is just some kind of education TV show but I do like this type of clothing and stuff.

But she is wearing a niqab, not a burqa.

>>52316563
>incorrectly

Yes.

>>52316312
It's not supposed to be subtle. This whole thing is meant to be a giant "fuck you" to the Taliban and subversive social forces in Pakistan.

It's basically Captain Planet, only for equality instead of recycling.

>>52316206

Hijabs are quite comely. Like gift wrap.

>>52315913

I wonder if you even realize that your reaction to this show is probably exactly the same as the Taliban's reaction.

>>52316579
>>52316508

Maybe because Burqa Avenger rolls off the tongue better than Niqab Avenger.

Or may because this is being released in English as well as Urdo, and English speakers are more familiar with the world burqa than niqab?

>>52316598
Ah.

>>52316690
>and English speakers are more familiar with the world burqa than niqab?

What did I tell you about intentionally dumbing shit down for baka gaijins?

>>52316628
I wonder if you even realize that your reaction to this show is probably exactly the same as the Taliban's reaction.

Maybe Baba Bandook really is /pol/?

>>52315329
dat nose, dat bling, dat muslim cartoon.

This'll be good

In case anyone is missing the significance this show is supposed to be conveying with the "education for all!" message, the Taliban hates girls being educated. They go so far as to try to murder them.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-13/malal-yousafzai-makes-first-public-speech-at-united-nations/4817988

The burka, or whatever the hell it's supposed to be (I swear, I bet you assholes are the same people who argue the fedora/trilby thing) is that a symbol of female repression has been co-opted as a means to fight said repression.

Sorry to get all /pol/ on you guys, but goddamn, some of you have completely missed the point.

Here's some more info on it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/24/pakistan-taliban-burqa-clad-superhero

It's a shame the show looks like such shit compared to the concept art.

This motherfucker right here is doing some JoJo posing shit.

>>52317041
>Sorry to get all /pol/ on you guys, but goddamn, some of you have completely missed the point.

No one who has been talking about the message of the show in this thread has said anything that misses the point.

>>52317019

Corrupt Mayor is gonna be swag as fuck. He seems to have a Hindu accent in the English dub.

>>52317041

The Taliban hates everything since they're no-fun-allowed. I was watching a documentary where a place they controlled wouldn't even allow TVs, so people had to set up secret black market shops for buying and repairing TVs.

>>52317041

From an article I read, it seems to be more of a cultural identity/flair thing for the purposes of this show.

Plus, she is wearing it of her own vocation, since she wears more western garb in her civilian mode.

>>52317109
Those posts were all from me. Everything else has been people sperging out over the technical term for what the main character is wearing, and a few people who were bemoaning the educational aspect.

>>52317041
>is that a symbol of female repression has been co-opted as a means to fight said repression.

Actually it's mostly a symbol of female repression in just the west.
But that's besides the point. It's used because it is actually completely inoffensive and that the common slang for burqa clad women is ninjas, and it's a pretty common, efficient disguise in the setting.

>>52317231
>two posts about semantics
>one ironic "libruls" post with two replies
>OMG YOU'RE ALL MISSING THE POINT

The only one who's sperging here is you.

>>52317228
They threatened and closed barbershops man. There's no logic to it.

Yes there were black market barbers. But they didn't last very long since you cant hide a shaved face.

>>52317041
equality is not a right it is a privilege and feminists needs to learn this

>>52315643

Actually think her costume is really cool. Really dynamic, hope the show gets some cool fanart.

Actually, just imagine if she becomes a total waifu and the internet starts to fill up with rule 34. Can't imagine that'd go over well with some people.

>>52317368

I think it'll be ok as long as there is plenty of clean fanart to drown out the smut. Shezow sort of had a problem like that early on in it's run where googling it would immediately bring up porn.

>>52317269

That's because the females don't even realize the depths of their oppression in the Middle-East, so they think it's okay.

>>52317368
Are you kidding me, I don't care how it is, I'll be pumping out rule34 just to rile people up.

Captcha: that guuurrl
I think it agrees.

The fact that all the villain designs would get you pilloried in the West for racism makes me happy.

>>52317479

>I'll be pumping out rule34 just to rile people up.

Keeping fighting the good fight.

Just give me the porn.

Feminist bullshit

>>52315074
Is that a rock?

looks pretty big, big enough to kill the Bat.

>>52317460
That's because westerners don't even realize the depths of left blank intentionally cause I dont want to get in a philosophical spat in the Middle-East, so they think it's not okay.

There's a lot of discussion to be had on the matter sure, but my culture is best culture so it should be applied everywhere is hardly a good stance to have.

Polite sage for off topic.

BurkaxLittle girl art when?

>>52317536
Silly anon, education can also be given out for free.

>>52317618

...at which point it costs other people money anyway.

>>52317603

I'd rather have JiyaXMiss Noor (girl on right) crossover art.

>>52317618
At which point it becomes charity, which still isn't a right.

Nothing says super hero empowerment like having to cover every square inch of yourself up so you don't "entice" men

>>52317639
But if it's state provided, we can call it a right. Like clean water. Everyone pays for clean water.

>>52317536
>water, food, housing, security, healthcare, hygiene
>rights
>something that costs money
>"right"

You're a fucking retard.

>>52315648

There. That's the shot.

>>52317698
>Like clean water

Uh, no. If you want water you have to pay your utility bill.

>>52317658

While she might have not used "right" right, I think what she means is that you should be able to go to school without people shooting you.

What would that be called? A privilege?

>>52317682
How about covering yourself up head to toe in a way that you blend in with the local populace and also remain completely anonymous?

When I said I wanted an Assassin's Creed cartoon this was really not what I had in mind.

>>52317735

In this case, the right is freedom, not education.

>>52317735
>While she might have not used "right" right

She used it exactly right unless you're a lolbertarian waste of flesh.

>>52317702
>>water, food, housing, security, healthcare, hygiene

What's you're point? Those aren't rights either.

>>52317735

Or the ability to go to school without getting shot at?

Education is everyone's privileged or Education is everyone's ability doesn't quite sound as cool.

>>52317775

Everyone has the inherent freedom to get an education? I suppose that could work.

>>52317775
That's entirely implied and completely comprehensible by anyone with even the barest understanding of the issue in the region, ie, that girls are not free to pursue education.

>>52317818

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

> (1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

> (1) Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.

Whoops

>>52317802
>She used it exactly right unless you're a lolbertarian waste of flesh.

What's the alternative? Everything is a right, and the government should give it to you? If what the person above said is to be true, then should the government give everyone a house, pay all their bills and feed them? How can that be sustainable in a world where things like that cost money?

>>52317870

"Everyone should have the freedom to get an education."

>>52317918
>> (1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

So any country that has homeless is breaking the law?

>>52317918

Yes, the UN is wrong. What's your point?

>>52317977

Every country that has homeless who are not offered shelter and opportunities to find a home is breaking the law, yes. No one in 1st world countries is forced to live in the streets.

>>52317885
Education is wasted on them. All this will do is make a Pakistan that is full of entitled women who think they deserve special treatement and need to put down all men.

>>52317041
>a symbol of female repression has been co-opted as a means to fight said repression.

Anyone else kind of want to see her team up with Wonder Woman? Her bracelets used to be re-purposed icons of Hercules' enslavement after all...

>>52317998

And this is where the lolbertarian waste of flesh comes in.

>>52317977

No, because law without enforcement doesn't actually exist. All the UN has are aspirational goals.

>>52318044

Words mean things.

Horrendous animation and voice acting. The only reason this show will ever get any attention is because of it's premise.

Also you faggots need to know the difference between positive rights and negative rights.

>>52318021
>who are not offered shelter and opportunities to find a home is breaking the law, yes

How do you get a home if you have no money? Should the government puts buses around the cities collecting homeless men to give them the keys to their free-of-charge heated, watered, powered homes with a full fridge?

>No one in 1st world countries is forced to live in the streets.

You can't possibly believe that.

>>52318044

How many homeless men do you allow to live in your home, drink your water, use your power, eat your food?

>>52318139
>negative rights

Or as they're also known, "rights"

>positive rights

Don't exist.

>>52318139
>The only reason this show will ever get any attention is because of it's premise.

And its origin. Being the first show out of a given country is a bit of an accomplishment.

>>52318224
>The first show.
Bitches don't know about Commander Safeguard.
The show even went to Mexico.

>>52318299

That I did not.

>>52317505
Remember when people used to bitch that Aladdin and Jasmine's designs made them look too white? Remember how they also shat bricks over Jafar's nose?

>>52318461

I don't, but mainly because I was 2 years old when that movie came out.

>>52318224
It's not the first cartoon out of Pakistan.

>>52318183
>>52318139
There is no distinction between positive rights and negative rights. It's bullshit semantics. Even what we call "negative rights" such as the right to property requires action (ie police and courts) to uphold that right.

>>52318524

The police and courts are simply a collectivization of the right to defend yourself and your property.

>>52318629
Just like public schools are the collectivization of the right to education, correct?

>>52318629
You don't need police for the right to protect your property. You could do it yourself with a bat or gun that you own.

It's a dangerous thing for the government to have the populace think they are needed to enforce rights.

>>52318697

There is no right to education.

A right to education would imply that, if you wanted to learn something and the person you wanted to learn it from refused to teach you, you would be morally justified to use lethal force to make them teach you. It's absolute bullshit.

>>52318783

A right that isn't enforced is worthless.
If you believe self-defense is a right regardless of what the lawmakers say, then the entire concept of rights is subjective, which means food, housing and healthcare are as much rights as what you think rights should be.

>>52318783

I assume you meant to quote >>52318524.

>>52318783

Police don't exist to protect the most able to defend themselves, just as public education doesn't exist to serve the ones who could afford private education.

>>52318783
1) That still requires action on someone's part, hence that goes against the traditional definition of negative rights.

2) It is very unlikely that you'd keep your right for too long in the absence of any kind of police, private or public. One man with a shot gun would not be able to ward off a gang. Rights are useless if they are not enforced.

>>52318864
Strawman of the concept of the right to education. The right to education implies that you are entitled to some sort of education. That doesn't mean you have to get that education from any kind of person you want.

>>52318864

No, a right to education implies that society has an obligation to provide all of its participants with means to education and if it can't do that, something in society is wrong and needs to be changed.

Your definition of rights is an absolute twisted parody of what rights are.

>>52318039
Nah you're thinking of what would happen with western women. These women would actually benefit and be happier because they are legitimately oppressed unlike our good friends on tumblr.

>>52318884
>which means food, housing and healthcare are as much rights as what you think rights should be.

They're not rights because they cost money, which is what decides what is a right and what isn't. My right to free speech, or right to religion doesn't cost anyone anything but what I decide to use my own money to buy. A prayer mat, a cross, it's all on me. Food, housing, education, healthcare, they all cost money and as such are not rights.

>A right that isn't enforced is worthless.
Bullshit. You don't "enforce" rights because there's no input the government can have to them outside of control or limitation. The government can only limit or control your right to protect your property, to freedom of expression or religion. If you government just steps away then it isn't "enforcing" shit, it's just allowing you your natural right.

I hope some of the people who enforce these dress codes appreciate the irony in the fetish they've helped create and fuel

>>52317330

Maybe they put on fake beards when out in public?

>>52318884

That's a false equivalency, the study of law can never be divorced from the study of history.

Self-defense isn't simply a right, it's the root of all rights. No civil law can ever override the right to self-defense just as no international law can ever override the right of conquest, because these rights are not abstract philosophical ideas, they are brute facts put in a fancy dress.

>>52319200

Yeah, if they really wanted to protect their women from male enticement, they'd make them wear sweatpants and crocs instead of hijabs.

>>52319025
>>52319032
>The right to education implies that you are entitled to some sort of education.

The RIGHT to education implies that I am entitled to use force to ensure my education. "You have a right to" and "you are entitled to use or invoke the use of force to guarantee" are synonymous.

>>52319272

Oh, someone would get a sweatpant fetish soon enough.

>>52319272
Man I'm not certain there's such a thing as an enticement proof outfits. I lived in boston and during the winter saw women getting catcalls in big coats that covered most of their bodies.

>>52319032

There are two schools of thought on what constitutes a "right". The first, older school, which came out of the eighteenth century Enlightenment, is that a right is something innate in a human being that cannot be denied by another. A person as a right to an education in that you cannot tell a person they cannot be educated - they may not be able to afford to attend a certain academy, but you cannot say "you are not allowed to learn to read". The "freedoms" associated with these sorts of right are generally expressed as "freedom to". This is the school of thought that the American Bill of Rights is rooted in and what an American usually means when they speak of rights.

The second, slightly newer school of thought comes more from the 19th century social-progressive movement, and dictates that a right is something that must be provided for people by the state. The "freedom" commonly associated with this sort of right is "freedom from". This is more what Europeans mean when they speak of "rights".

>>52319472

...And the Europeans are wrong, because their "rights" are products of material circumstance. They're just public services that they decided to give a fancy name to.

>>52319304
Yes. That doesn't mean you can force just anyone to give you an education. In the case of most countries, people become teachers voluntarily. What's obtained by "force" is their funding, which is taxation.

>>52319583
Same with negative rights. They require public services to uphold as well. Right to property is rather useless if a gang moves in and takes it over.

>>52319472
>There are two schools of thought on what constitutes a "right"

yeah, sure.

>>52319472
>There are two schools of thought on what constitutes a "right". The first, older school, which came out of the eighteenth century Enlightenment, is that a right is something innate in a human being that cannot be denied by another. A person as a right to an education in that you cannot tell a person they cannot be educated - they may not be able to afford to attend a certain academy, but you cannot say "you are not allowed to learn to read". The "freedoms" associated with these sorts of right are generally expressed as "freedom to". This is the school of thought that the American Bill of Rights is rooted in and what an American usually means when they speak of rights.

This is clearly what Jiya meant.

Glad that has now been cleared up and we can talk about something else r-right?

So how long till something from Shad with her trying to hide a cum dribbling monster cock under that outfit

Does she have super powers or what?

I mean, there's a robot. Can't punch a robot to death with bare hands without super powers

>>52319690
She uses books and pins from what has been seen so far.

>>52319690

No superpower. She uses martial arts and uses pens as shurikens like a ninja.

The robot has a "terror chip" and without it, he is actually a pretty nice guy.

Is there a larger version of this on the site? I can't find it.

>>52319895

Also tried looking for this.

>>52319810
>>52319721
Well alright. I guess.

There better not be any atrocious puns or "the pen is mightier than the sword" quips

>>52319656
Eagerly awaiting this

>>52319930

She looks kind of intense. I don't think she will be throwing around a lot of puns and quips.

The comic relief will probably be from the villains and their minions.

>>52319627

No, even in Mad Max, you have property rights, because you are still justified in using force to defend your property. On the other hand, you no longer have the opportunity, much less the "right", to get a free primary education.

That's the difference between laws and rights: Rights exist independent of the government.

>>52319472

...And this is why Europe is FUCKED.

>>52315913
I'm not sure if you're trolling or just retarded.

>>52320145

Same goes for you.

>>52320145

Both?

>>52320184
No U

>>52320093
Yeah, and America is looking at that and thinking it's a swell idea. Why? Because it's useful at the ballot box.

>>52320051
How's it justified? Wasn't this whole argument over what's the difference between property rights and education rights? Saying the difference is "well, property rights are justified" is circular reasoning. The question is, why are property rights justified and why doesn't that also applied to educational rights?

>>52320343
There is no justification, rights are just a made up construct, the only rights that exist are the ones given to you by other people or organizations.

>>52320482

So education is a right.

>>52320338

Yeah, and we're fucked slowly.

>>52320528
It can be.

>>52320528

I'll believe that when you kill someone for your education.

>>52320338
Oh please, America has been so deadlocked that they can't decide whether or not to go European or not when it comes to economics. Obamacare barely passed despite all of it's revisions to appeal to the right-wing crowd.

>>52320675

Now I thought education falls into "things that cost money", which includes food?
Plenty of people kill for food.

>>52320343

By human instinct. Everyone is ultimately their own moral compass.

>>52320751
>Plenty of people kill for food.

Plenty of people are wrong.

>Natural Rights

Natural Rights simply do not exist. Get over it.

I think this is actually pretty heartwarming, it'll be cheesy for sure and educational (shudder), but a show that makes fun of taliban scum and promotes education for oppressed Pakistani girls, I'm all for it.

>>52320916
Ha. Tell that to someone starving. They don't care how "wrong" they are.

>>52320916

Let's say self-defense is wrong. What now?

>>52320962

I'm not actually sure it'll be educational, even thought it is about a teacher protecting her school. The promotional clips just have her fighting and stuff, not teaching anything.

Cheesy? Oh yeah.

>>52317041
>Sorry to get all /pol/ on you guys
No, if you were going all /pol/, you'd just be spamming as many jolly merchants as possible.

>>52321085

Interesting that the main villains of this show (a corrupt major and a fake magician) seem to be Indian instead of Jewish, as what seemed to be joked about in earlier threads.

So, um. The Taliban is going to attack the studio Right?

>>52320948
^this, rights are purely a social contract enforced by government. any other definition is just ideaologyfag masturbation about muh dollars

>>52321268

Who knows. As far as I know, the Taliban nor any other extremist groups haven't even said anything about it, so maybe they're not aware of the cartoon at the moment?

>>52321304
>a social contract enforced by government

A government can't "enforce" natural rights. Simply limit or control them.

>>52321377

This is the exact same shit.

>>52320832
>implying human instinct exists
Do you even basic sociology?

>>52321377
>natural rights
These are fictional. They do not exist at all. The government grants "rights" to it's people, and people have social rights within their community.

>>52321399
No it isn't.

As soon as the government steps in to limit or control freedom of speech, or freedom of religion, or the right to protect your property, they are taking away that right.

>>52321377
learn to follow conversations. natural rights do not exist not matter how hard your penis gets when a bald eagle screams

rights are constructs of society and enforced by the same, ie government. take your "natural right" shit back to bible camp, faggot

>>52315724
>the hero that britbongs get
LOL

>>52318180

>How do you get a home if you have no money?

You never saw those places were they offer shelter to homeless people?

>>52321495
>The government grants "rights" to it's people
Remove government. Do you still have the right to freedom of expression? Do you still have the right to freedom of religion? Do you still have the right to protect yourself and our property?

Yes you do. Rights are independent of government.

>>52321564
>Remove government. Do you still have the right to freedom of expression? Do you still have the right to freedom of religion? Do you still have the right to protect yourself and our property?

No you don't.

>>52321560
You ever saw how they're all full of women fleeing abusive husbands?

>>52321564
>Do you still have the right to freedom of expression?

No

>Do you still have the right to freedom of religion?

No

>Do you still have the right to protect yourself and our property?

No

Rights are a social construct. They exist only in a social setting. remove the man from society and he ceases to have any rights, just increased freedom.

>>52321607

You never saw that women specifically have shelters dedicated for that?

>>52321495
>natural rights are fictional

False. Natural rights are simply definitional observations. "You own what you can protect from others." forms a natural right, and also defines ownership.

>>52321607

How is that relevant? If hobos don't use them, it's their fault for having too much pride to accept help but just about not enough pride to eat shit out of garbage cans.

>>52321618

Needs image of Burqa Avenger slapping someone.

>>52321590
Yes. You do.

If someone decided to walk away and live in a forest, they'd still have those things.

>>52320032

She looks too much like a ninja.

>>52321564

No, you don't have those rights anymore then. You can still try to do those things but someone will probably beat the shit out of you if you do.

>>52316690

I'd imagine just the name "Niqab" would be a good superhero name. Kind of like referring to someone as a "mask" or "cape"

>>52321662
>Natural rights are simply definitional observations

No they're just normative bullshit.

>>52321711

They'd have those things but not the right to them because rights do not fucking exist without a higher power defining them.

>>52321590

Yes you do.

>>52321564
>rights are defined as things things that I would like to do
I guess I have a right to rub my penis on the inside of your mouth until orgasm. Open up or you're a commie hitler.

>>52321711
>If someone decided to walk away and live in a forest, they'd still have those things.

No they wouldn't, rights don't exist in a societal vacuum.

>>52321607

Women have shelters specially dedicated for that.

>>52321719

...at which point I use my right to self-defense.

>>52321773

Yes they do. That's the difference between rights and laws.

>>52321716

I'm pretty sure the resemblance to a ninja is intentional. She hops from building to building in the dark of the night, uses martial arts, and throws pens like they were throwing knives.

>>52321680
Actually shelters are very dangerous places in a lot of places. You're likely to get robbed of anything you DO have if you go there.

>>52321377
Yes they can. If a gang comes in and steals your property and fucks you up because you tried to defend yourself, then by the state punishing them and giving you back your property, they are enforcing the right to property, as the right to property is useless unless it is recognized and backed by a power.

>>52321564
You are able to have a certain religion you want until a crazy group of fundies come in and murder you for holding that belief.

>>52321662
This is also false. Rights are not observations, they are mere ideology. Plus, even granting the laughably outdated assumption that they're observations, they suffer from the is-ought problem.

>>52321802

Again with the circular logic. You aren't even attempting to adress the points in >>52321495 >>52321532 and instead just repeat your tired unfounded IT IS SO BECAUSE I SAY SO bullshit.

>>52321564

The government "should" try to prevent that you have this rights not taken from you.


If there is no goverment, you still have the rights, but there is no government to prevent or punish someone that beats the shit out of you and take away your freedom, for example.

>>52321821
No because rights are a social construct, what you're saying is pseudo-religious bullcrap.

>>52321822
Things Ninjas didn't do

>>52321870

It's not circular logic, it's an axiom. Any system has to start somewhere. Rights starts with self-defense.

Retreating into solipsism won't justify your communist bullshit.

>>52321941

I meant the popular media depiction of ninja.

>>52321962
>Any system has to start somewhere

And that somewhere is the ruling power deciding what rights its citizens have.

>>52321890
>pseudo-religious

It's called philosophy of law.

>>52315074
They host their video on Facebook, apparently. You can find the link by viewing the source and searching for "Monologue"
There are programs that can rip videos from facebook.

>>52321822

She looks like a ninja wearing a poncho


That's actually a nice idea for a cocept. It sucks that it was wasted on a Burka Super Hero.

>>52322008
>philosophy

It's called waste of breath.

>>52322008
It's called

>I'm too stupid to read Hobbes!

>>52322004

What ruling power? God? There is no pre-existing "ruling power" you can appeal to here.

The beginning point of law is individuals deciding what government they are willing to bear.

>>52321941
Ninjas used everyday items as weapons anon.

>>52321822

She looks like a cool super hero but the "Burka" thing is just stupid.

I wish she could have been just a normal muslim super hero.

>>52322086
If you do not have a government, you do not have fucking rights, you have freedoms you moron. This is basic enlightenment political theory you thick headed retard.

>>52322086

Not the anon you are responding but isn't the pre-existing "ruling power" the individuals with more... you know... power? (Strenght, weapons, influence)

>>52322151
but if rights are natural then I can still love MURRICA while bitching about gubmint and not wanting to pay taxes and daydreaming about fucking off to the mountain to eat squirrels and jack off all day

i think i finally understand

>>52322131
Normal Arab Muslims wear Burkas in their homeland.

It sort of worries me whenever I see people getting offended for tihngs they have no idea about.

>>52322277

If there was no government, yeah... you could.

>>52322333
Unless you began interacting with other people and forming social bonds, if you did that another social contract would start to form.

>>52322293

I'm not offended, just find it stupid.

I wouldn't mind the Burka if it was just her outfit and she wasn't called Burka Avenger.

>>52322293

>Normal Arab Muslims wear Burkas in their homeland.

Depends on the country, and before you say anything, Burka=/=Hijab.or Chador.

>>52322151

Other way around. Freedoms are facts, and only meaningful in a structured society, because outside of it any discussion of freedoms is trivial: you have all the freedoms. Rights are conceptual, a philosophical derivation that exist separate from any specific society or government.

To give an example, the women of Afghanistan are deprived of freedoms, and this is wrong because they have human rights.

>>52322479

The country this show takes place is in Pakistan, where women wearing hijab/burqa/etc would be fairly ubiquitous.

>>52322560

No, the women of Afghanistan are denied basic rights and this is wrong because they have no freedom.

>>52315989
Now THAT is cool.

>>52322560
>To give an example, the women of Afghanistan are deprived of freedoms, and this is wrong because they have human rights.

Which is just stuff we as a society deemed they should have because we feel that that we would want those rights too.

>>52322600

That's okay, I was just correcting anon because he said "Arab Muslims wear Burkas in their home countries," when a lot of the Arab countries don't have a tradition of wearing full blown burkas. This is mostly something you'd see in places like Pakistan or Afghanistan, who aren't Arabs.

>>52322627

Either your grammar is fucked or your logic is.

>>52322705

All morality is ultimately sentiment-based, but that doesn't prevent it from being meaningful.

>>52322560
Freedom isn't a fact, and really only makes sense in the way you view it from a libertarian perspective of free will.

And if you're the same guy who claimed that rights are an observation, then it's actually the opposite: scientific observations actually support the idea of some form of determinism more than anything else, which shits on the idea of freedom, and thus most conceptions of rights, entirely.

>>52322726
Mmm, I though only Arabs were so hard into Islam to used burqas or their local equivalent. But well according to /int/ Afghans are also quite crazy themselves. I stand corrected.
Though my feelings on what the previous anon said still stand.

>>52322010

Thanks, it is uploaded to youtube now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOP8xaUY24U&feature=youtu.be

Too bad the whole cartoon couldn't look like this. It'd be like some sort of female Muslim Samurai Jack.

>>52319472
Would there be a negative right to be fee fom someone preventing rain from falling on your land as it would naturally?

So bitching about tumblr/feminism/jew/lgbtqiabbq gets a /co/ thread tossed fast, but bitching about muslims doesn't?

I see how it is, mods

>>52323051
I'm kind of surprised about that myself. But then again, I guess /pol/ is closer to the Taliban than they realize.

>>52323051
Or you know, people haven't bothered reporting the thread.

>>52323051
This thread was more about people arguing about natural rights honestly.

>>52323051

Nobody is bitching about muslims ITT.

>>52322905
>Freedom isn't a fact

I disagree that this is the same statement as "freedoms are facts." You seem to be treating Freedom as a proper noun here, which I was not.

Trying to treat Freedom that way is beyond silly, since --even aside from debates about the nature of the universe or "free will"-- we're all ultimately slaves to biology, both in what we need to live and what we are likely to want.

>>52323407
Then how are you defining "freedoms"?

>>52323470

I dunno but they start with the word MUH.

>>52323051

What does this giant convoluted argument on what "rights" are have to do with muslims?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr6O0PrvZ-A

According to this article, it will be airing in early August, but I don't know if that will be the English or Urdu version or both.

>>52323497
Half of this thread is an argument on niqab vs burka, how arab women don't even realize they are oppressed, and how the taliban is evil